we use the roads, we use airports, we need the tsa and the infrastructure to keep the economy moving. i consider it an investment in the things we need do business, the same way i invest if my country every year. one of the things i love about philadelphia -- >> we need better roads. >> we need better roads. we need better airports. >> we do. people don't realize you don't need to repave the entire country. if you look at what's going on, there are bottlenecks, specific ones, and you can get it down to a list of 1,000 around the country. if you fix those bottlenecks you can free up a lot of economic activity. you don't need to repave all of i-95. you got a couple of points around port elizabeth, in down in the carolinas, around philadelphia that you need to fix. >> i love companies like yours because you are truly leading economic indicators. people don't ship goods that they don't plan on selling. >> absolutely. >> from your view right now, how's the economy looking heading into 2013? >> it's looking strong from our perspective. >> no sign of a recession or slowdown yet. >> not at al